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Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:27:00 - [1] I was very much looking forward to the T2 invention feature. I understand that currently the market is all kinds of fubar till prices come back down from the roof but to me invention never was going to be a tool to break into the indy market game. I just want to be able to fit a rack of T2 heavy launchers, or maybe a few T2 cruise launchers without selling my first born child on escrow (err contracts now i guess). For the average corp I would think being able to make some of the big T2 guns without paying 14 mil each for them would be awsome. Is this not possible with inventions? Or will the price of the extra stuff you need be too high to even compete on that lvl? http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:28:00 - [2] Well doesn't that suck Best get to making more childrens to auction off then Hey you No Quarter guys are not leaving Syndicate are you? I was gonna invent more stuff to pew pew you with :p http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Hayah Theos As a gamer since 1965 and a subscriber to EVE by the year, I can tell you this is driving away subscribers. I'm not even sure I will renew when my subscription runs out. For now I have resorted to piracy for my jolly rogers..and why not? After all, CCP has made every other form of competion in this game useless by giving the BPOG&C the "I WIN" button. Can I have your stuff? T2 Ships, Guns and other gear do not make this game. Yeah they are nice items to have but it doesn't make or break this game. There are no T2 BPO Gods shaping the way the game is run. Bob, ASCN, LV, and D2 didn't become the powerhouses overnight cause someone got lucky in a lotto. They rose to where they are today through battles and hard work. Invention still has some time to play out before it is deamed good or bad. I was just thinking it would be nice for the smaller end corps to be able to develope some of the basic T2 mods we use internaly. I am sure people will start to see T2 BPC's on the new contract system soon enough. I am going to tinker around with them for awhile, maybe i will get lucky. shrugs Even if I don't its something new to play with :) http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 15:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Hayah Theos Blah, blah, blah Califax...BPO crony ! "some of the basic T2 mods we use internaly"...you gave away your "pet" identity.. And yes, T2 does rule this game... both in combat and as a source of isk for supreme power. Busted!!! 1) We own 0 T2 BPO's 2) We are no ones "pet" we are a small corp trying to make it in eve 3) T2 BPO does not give super powers Have you ever been in 0.0 before? http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Hayah Theos Yes I have been in 0.0 before.... I have played for a year and developed 3 corporations with 65 pilots and 2 POSs in zero. If you are not a T2 BPO GOD "bootlick", I'll eat my hat. (What else did you mean when you said "it would be 'nice' for the smaller end corps to be able to develope some of the basic T2 mods WE use internaly"? The only people I know routinely using T2 ships and mods in mass are the T2 GODS and their "bootlicks". Everyone else can't afford it or build it. As for your assertion that T2 BPOs don't bestow super powers.... you are either ignorant of game combat mechanics and in denial about the isk consequences of limited exclusive T2 BPO ownership or just plain stupid. Would you like Ketchup with that hat? We as a corp, or even my members do NOT have a T2 BPO. We take rat loot and a few mins from mining and use it to make alot of our own gear. We have found that this saves time and isk as well makeing sure the corp is well rounded on all fronts. I was trying to explain to you that as a small corp we have to go and buy the few T2 items we use on a reg basis. This is why it would be nice if invention would allow us on a limited basis to make a few of the spiffy T2 items we use. If we don't have T2 it won't stop us from fighting and it won't "ruin" the game. T2 does not give super powers With your can't do it attitude and name calling no wonder you had to make 3 corps Back on topic agian now...... Has anyone had anymore luck with this new feature? I am rather interested to see some results from those people putting in the effort to test it out. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg
Califax Oman Mining Bytes Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Hayah Theos Califax... Califax... I sincerely apologize. After reading your last post, I realize that you are not a T2 BPO lackey... You are just grossly ignorant of the game combat mechanics that make T2 fleet engagement against T1 ships a non-event. Worse than that, you seem to be incapable of grasping the simple fact that T2 BPO GODS have an isk source that allows them to easily brush aside small hard-working Corps such a yourselves because they can destroy you in a war of attrition at any time they please and you have NO way of countering them other than trying to stay out of their way when they tell you to leave. (In fact the only effective defense is to become a T2 BPO GOD "bootlick" and serve them as CCP apparently intends.) Answer one question for me, please.... How do you enjoy building targets for the ELITE T2 GODS to destroy? I mean when I finally realized that, after a year's work, that was all I was really allowed to do in Eve, I just couldn't find the "joy" in waiting around for the T2 BPO GODS to show up and kick my hard won sand-castle to the ground (which they eventually did... actually they were quite nice about it and allowed us to pack up and leave..LOL). And I don't want to hear any "Polly Anna" crap about how you are going to fight when they come because until they do....you don't know crap about T2 vs T1 in mass. Any blustering you wish to add is "just talk" as you will find out when they arrive. Maybe then you will come to understand why an "uneven playing field" is detrimental to Eve. You sound a little bitter about getting your sand castle knocked over. As for your question... I enjoy building ships for myself and my corp. It saves us a freighter trip to Jita and gives our miners a sense of purpose higher than ones own wallet. How do you know the T2 BPO holders haven't attacked us? I mean I don't go searching the forums to find out if the targets I am shooting own a BPO. You fight with what you have and with good smart tactics. Make some friends, grow as a corp, hire some mercs, but don't come here and blame CCP or eve game machanics for you sucking at PVP and corp building. Adapt and overcome, or go play WoW. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m283/Mimic-G/Califax-Final.jpg

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